How do I put this? Hearing FernValley allow as how she's never used any type of longeing gadgetry/equipment, made my memory flash back In My Horse Time (IMHT). Way, way back, IMHT, horses still had heads up in the air.
They really have changed remarkably, haven't they? Well, if you're old like me, it's noticeable. It's why I've always sounded so surprised. I am, I ReallY am. Quarter Horses did NOT have level or lower as "normal". They just didn't. So, okay. The rock dweller (me) has arisen.
A lower natural head helps remove the need for the gadgets. I ThinK. And the only real "need" for the gadgets, is to initially help the horse know where he is to go, AND prepare him for the weight he's about to bear. Gadgets also lessen the probability of bucking. They don't eliminate it. I know.
But with a higher natural head carriage, a horse is also less able to buck. Never impossible. I know. Horses can do anything they want with their bodies, in the blink of a butterfly. With as little warning, too. The perfectly balanced within themselves capability is there until you weight them the first time. Lowering their head and stretching their necks down and forward shows them, prepares them physically, for your weight. Then you spend months building up his strength, so he can learn to carry you comfortably.
The initial ground work, leading, tying, grooming manners, loading, clipping are all beautifully covered elsewhere in the blogosphere. I only need add that an expectation of proper manners is your right as the human animal. The horse animal should always assume that the human is the leader. Period. I have my own personal space with horses, as I do with people. I'd let horses get closer, though:).
ANYway, one millionth thing I learned from GoLightly was, let the natural travel of the horse be your guide to everything you do with him/her. The mistake people make with side-reins, imo, is starting off far too tight, far too soon. And using them forever and ever and ever..
They should NEVER EVER need to be "tight". Ever. Unless a re-train is going on, and even then, "tight" would be the length needed for the horse to stand naturally, in his most comfortable, natural position, with an inch added.. By varying the length from left to right, eg. shorter left side-rein than right, you "show" them initial left lateral, or body flexion.
When starting a young horse, loose side-reins, are there just to guide, and to let the horse become accustomed to a bit in his mouth. And they only get pulled out if the horse starts to wander too much on the longe. They show the horse the channel I've blathered about.
When I first climbed onto Tad's back, I had a helper at the end of the longe. I'd already gone through steps A through Z. Tad was ready as he was ever going to be. Helper (a guy,of course) ignored my request to let Tad's head alone. Helper tightened, pulled. Tad went straight up into the air, and came down bucking. I was able to quell the explosion simply by keeping his head up. Tad wore loose side-reins a few times after that, to help him forget the fear he'd felt through the first weight on his back.
I always used loose side-reins, as in five or six inches LoNger than the horse's natural stance, for greenies on the longe. Depended on the horse's individual problem, where the SR's attached to the girth/"bitting-rig", or some variation thereof. ON THE LONGE. Tad stopped wearing them on the longe, real quick. He didn't need them for long. He had a lovely front end and a naturally balanced way of going..
Crappy feet, but oh well. Thoroughbreds and their feets. (sigh) Oh, and they are ganglier, longer, aren't they?
It shows them the way to the ground, that helps them stretch and relax their back muscles, and prepare them for your first requests for attention.
"Bitting-Rig" = a longeing surcingle with all kinds of places to hook side-reins, and a longeing cavesson, just a big old halter really, so that you can longe the horse without using his bit. Step L, I believe;)
Fern? I think it helps to have a lower natural head. Gadgets to lower it further seem counter intuitive.
People Ride in Side-Reins. That's scary as hell. IMHT.....
Oh, and right. Standing martingales are a no-no in jumpers. In Canada. We figured that out, at least. We aren't uncivilized:):):):)
Horses Need to be able to use their heads and necks, in that lovely channel, that flow that is horse movement. With SideReins on the longe, we help them to stretch and flex and RELAX, thereby working their whole body, from nose to tail.
When I'm looking at your horses, Fern?
The way you work with them? The way you YourSelf Are?
SideReins are probably not something you'd need to pullout too often. Like ever. Solid, well-balanced, sane (well, mostly). Take out a high-headed scatterbrained harse? Different story, maybe.
:)
jmo.
Don't shoot me.
16 comments:
Well # 1 Thank you , you make me sound smarter than I think I am . Thank you also for the explanation. I have never used them ,mostly because a) I didn't know how
& b) never needed them ,so far.
Though I might go out and practice a little ,a new skill is never a bad thing.
A high headed horse I could see a need for something ,I have always longed them until they looked as relaxed as possible and gauge kind of where the head should be , then once on their back I do the same ass I said in the post way back . Let them lead with the nose ,a little until they are carrying the bit ,then gently lightly ask them to give.If the nose pops up I am asking to hard,if they soften into me well, cool its working. For this reason I will never make a 30 day trainer , nor will I do well in WP I always shoot for natural carriage and balance then collection (and that don't make a peanut roller)
got all long winded there , yes I think a naturaLLY lower head carriage does help to some degree.
Thanks, FV.
It just clicked one of my "oooooh, I get it" moments.
I'm glad you were so patient with me.
Takes me a while..
Fern,
Well said. That's exactly how you should work with a horse.
As you all well know, I'm not a fan of side reins or trying to force the horses head. It always leads to false collection and stiffness. I subscribe to the classical way of thinking and don't work a horse front to back. My reasons for going classical is that it looks natural and the horses aren't subjected to the damaging training and movements of modern dressage.
FV~ AWESOME!!
I really hate artificial aids. When I rode, I rode hunters, and every lesson horse in the barn did lessons (especially over fences) in a standing martingale. I always thought that if you had to use fake things like that, it was a sign that the horse needed more training.
I used to lease one of those lesson horses. I never rode him with the martingale (except at shows, where it wasn't up to me). Guess what? He was fine, and more relaxed.
I rode all the "crazy" OTTBs in a fat D-ring snaffle, often rubber or wrapped. Yup, they were nuts.
nice post GL!
When the dun and I used to jump, we did use the standing martingale every now and again-we stuck to hunter. He would get a bit star gazey WITHOUT it, but then again jumping wasn't entirely my thing, and now we don't even do it anymore.
I havent used SIDE reins on the dun, but I have done the surcingle/reins attached to rings (which is probably pretty darn identical to side reins now that i think about it). I never had it ridiculously TIGHT though, I attach them in such a way that if he raises his head astronomically, he feels the bit, so when he lowers his head (NOT TO THE FLOOOOOOR) it releases whatever pressure there was.
For us, learning to collect/ round over the back, has been essential. He is muscling up over the top of his neck and carrying himself in a more balanced way. To be honest, he used to run around with his face in the air, and he got sore because of it. So I think there is a fine line between how much training there should be done and what a horse really needs.
I am currently jealous of any horse who naturally carries their head in a relaxed position :)
The dun is just too damn concerned about what the heck is going on elsewhere...hehe
Keep writing! I have much catching up to do
I think if they are consistently used at the exact right time, in exactly the right place, for exactly the right reason, by exactly the right handler, they never need to be used again.
They helped with my re-wiring of Taddy, after his explosion.
Gawd, I was pissed off.
Should have known then...
I've seen videos of horses with side-reins between their front legs. Whoa..
Standing Martingales on schoolies. My boys never looked at a martingale. Beau started with one, but he "lost" it, with me.
Funny old Beau. OneEyed Talll ASBcross, solid dark red chestnut. Classic noble head.. He charged ALL his jumps, with a 26 foot stride. At the beginning.
I haven't bloggled Beau yet, have I?
Gadgets are a crutch the horse world is hobbling on.
Thanks guys.
While I agree in someways with the gadgets are bad...I have gadgets. I use gadgets. Yup, side reins got em. Reins...got em. Bits...got em. Saddles...got em. Whips...got em. Halters...got em. Lead ropes...got em.
Any one of these things can be used poorly. Brains...got em. That's where the make or break of any piece of equipment is made.
If you don't understand how and why the piece of equipment works...don't use it. Now, there are some things I will never use, never have. Gag bits, nope. Chambon de Gouge...nope. Rhythm Rope, nope. Be Nice Halters, nope. Scissor hackamores, nope. The list is close to endless.
I think it's when equipment is overused, poorly used, or just used incorrectly...it goes bad. I see people use side reins that have no business using them. They don't understand the purpose, or how and why they work. Less is usually more.
In the wrong hands, they are crippling horses.
Where else can they go?
Thank goodness for Dakota Joe.. He learned me.
Did ya read JR's blog about the re-trains..
Running backwards and flipping.
Yes folks, the go button reallY is in the back. really, really.
Oh, horses. GoForward, GoL....
I've used a chambon before, with the dun, years ago. Never rode him with it though! It was a helpful little thing, mine was a simple version, made out of nylon. I used it for short periods of time at nothing more than a walk/jog/trot. Haven't used it in years, as I don't think we really need to...
Beautiful...Really...
Gadgetry is not the same as training device.
It is only a training device in the hands of someone who knows how to use it properly.
Means to an end?
How about tool to get to a new beginning?
Hey GL that drawreins are for slackers caused more of a hulaboo than me using the "E" word.
GL don't go away for too long.
And yes, you would be "That Spectacular Goofy Canadian Scot".
Did the meaning change when I switched the order?
So, there is no confusion, "That goofy Canadian Scot who I happen to think is Spectacular".
Yeh, I speak unto all ye burglars of turds: Dost Thou fear if the horse should move while Thou art scooping in the stall? I say unto ye who burgle: Stand
firm and make the horse to yield up his space to the scoop and bucket.
Yeh sayeth I unto the horses: Fear not, for burgling is good. It shall come to pass that Thou shalt dumpest neither in thy feed nor water bucket. Thou
shalt offer up thy turds to the Burglar of such offerings. And if Thou doest unto the Turdburglars in this way, there shall be many broodmares and foals
in the herd of every righteous stallion.___Doodooronomy Crapter 1, verses 1-8.
TB,
Snicker. Thank you for your words of wisdom. I missed you at JR's blog. Fact wanted to join TB there as Fact was very concerned about the syphilis outbreak at Scottsdale this year.
backing away, cowering/bowing, to the TurdBurglar.
Most brilliantest.
I gotta go see something..
Ha, I just realized...
anyways, yup, "can you ride? Not really. here use this gadget, your horse will be better for it."
You won't.
For Sure, the horse won't.
Hi, Bhm! The dungbuggles await Fact on Jr's blog.
Come forth, Ye Fact who is loved by dungbuggles!!
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